This is part of the new, very effective, anti-professional look. I don't recommend it for business.

 

Hi,
I don't understand how do you mean it - "Look for constricted areas where the straps cross the sided of your body and at the top, on either side of your neck. This is where you would notice a poor fit as the straps' edges would bite into your clothes."

When I put the bag on and straps cross my shoulders how can I find out poor fit or how can i notice based on looking at the top it doesnt fit?

thank you

When you put on the backpack (and stuff something of weight into it first) you need to notice how it feels- do the straps feel like they are too tight anywhere? How it feels will be far more important that how it looks, so forget the mirror and just move around the store and notice where the pressure from the straps digs into your clothing. If the pressure at any particular point feels very strong that is the point where you might damage clothing. To avoid damaging clothing you want the weight to be spread out fairly evenly so no edge of the strap cuts into your clothing.

xoror, this is a very traditional American/Anglo clothing forum and the thought of using something modern is anathema to many members, and thus a leather bag that is does not fit the classical definition of a proper bag is well outside the myopic definition of what many here can like or accept as attractive, useful, or even acceptable. Do not let that affect your choice unless you want to be part of that particular fraternity of shoppers. No doubt they will excoriate me for saying this but the truth is the negativity towards these leather backpacks is just a function of preconception and rigidity, and while most of us on these 'fora' have such attitudes towards this or other things it is usually in the spirit of good fun or benevolence, albeit not always.

I have several cases, including a very expensive traditional leather case that I consider to be very beautiful, and I receive more compliments on the leather backpack than I do on the older briefcase, and have yet to hear an unkind remark about either. I sometimes bike to work or walk and using a briefcase is not practical when I do this. While I wouldn't use the backpack if I were going to a meeting with a bank chairman, who will be white and male, I would if I were meeting folks in an ad agency, who might be of any race or gender. Ignore the haters. While this might not be acceptable to a few folks who are from or wish they were from Greenwich, Connecticut, it will be to anyone else likely to see it. Save the P.E.T.A. brigade and their ilk, with whom I have no quarrel.

 

i can't still find anything saying why no backpack... ;/

To me, backpacks look adolescent...like an dult wearing something a shool boy would wear. It does not present a very mature, professional look. The situation is of course different if one is using the backpack in a hiking/camping type of situation, but for business purposes, I would stick with an over the shoulder bag or briefcase.

 

xoror, this is a very traditional American/Anglo clothing forum and the thought of using something modern is anathema to many members, and thus a leather bag that is does not fit the classical definition of a proper bag is well outside the myopic definition of what many here can like or accept as attractive, useful, or even acceptable. Do not let that affect your choice unless you want to be part of that particular fraternity of shoppers. No doubt they will excoriate me for saying this but the truth is the negativity towards these leather backpacks is just a function of preconception and rigidity, and while most of us on these 'fora' have such attitudes towards this or other things it is usually in the spirit of good fun or benevolence, albeit not always.

Nothing to do with a rigidity of view. A backpack in a crowded place, like London, is a menace, a nuisance. It is very hard to move safely and courteously in a crowded space with a backpack on, as the wearer is rarely aware of it knocking into people, or the potential of knocking into people. It also makes a suit look bad by pulling in on the shoulders and pulling across the chest if the jacket is buttoned. In terms of aesthetics in a more general sense, as has been mentioned already, it makes the wearer look like a little boy in a suit and creates an impression of silliness.

 

Nothing to do with a rigidity of view. A backpack in a crowded place, like London, is a menace, a nuisance. It is very hard to move safely and courteously in a crowded space with a backpack on, as the wearer is rarely aware of it knocking into people, or the potential of knocking into people. It also makes a suit look bad by pulling in on the shoulders and pulling across the chest if the jacket is buttoned. In terms of aesthetics in a more general sense, as has been mentioned already, it makes the wearer look like a little boy in a suit and creates an impression of silliness.

I agree, is there any diff if you wear backpack with jeans and shirt? Then its appropriate or it still creates for a man that little boy look.

Thanks

 

If not wearing a suit, a backpack is most often appropriate. IMO. I don't think it rates any worse than the ubiquitous Filson cloth briefcases/messenger bags, since they are not really classic leather briefcases either...


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Why should backpacks look fashionable, you just wrap it around your shoulders. The more items you store in them the more hunchback you'll look.

 

Nothing to do with a rigidity of view. A backpack in a crowded place, like London, is a menace, a nuisance. It is very hard to move safely and courteously in a crowded space with a backpack on, as the wearer is rarely aware of it knocking into people, or the potential of knocking into people. It also makes a suit look bad by pulling in on the shoulders and pulling across the chest if the jacket is buttoned. In terms of aesthetics in a more general sense, as has been mentioned already, it makes the wearer look like a little boy in a suit and creates an impression of silliness.

We disagree. A backpack is no more a menace than a briefcase is; the menace is a man carrying a case that is ignorant of their surroundings and/or inconsiderate of other people. An airplane aisle when disembarking comes to mind as a favourite time to have a clasp of one style of bag or another imprinted onto your forehead, and it's the fault of the bag's user, not the bag's design.

I think your idea of silliness and the little boy look embraces my 'rigidity of view' observation. That is obviously a viewpoint of non-compliance to a real or perceived norm, as is my thought when I see well dressed man wearing a backpack after dismounting a bike and view it as the look of someone responsibly connected to the larger world.

Clearly, as you say, a backpack will deform the shoulders of a suit, and even a tweed jacket to a lesser degree. If I'm wearing a suit I carry a briefcase and they are both a requirement of some event I am attending that day. On the other hand, if I am cycling to work I am not expecting to attend such an event and flannels, a sport coat, and a backpack may well be the order of the day. I never hear a negative comment from anyone, including close friends and co-workers who freely would (in the proper spirit) should they wish to. I think those who feel like you do in this regard are a very small in number in the world, though strong in number on our fora, and I am simply urging the OP to consider that when making his decision. We represent a tiny portion of the briefcase carrying public.

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My personal opinion is that a backpack looks at odds with wearing a nice jacket, especially to the work environment. They are better for the back, no doubt but they just don't seem work appropriate to me. I would suggest a nice messenger bag. Tumi makes some really nice ones. They last forever and are worth the investment.

 

what do you guys think about this one - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b74bd7n39y8bxgy/AABUzki1CEnfbvykn01wTZD_a?dl=0

 

^^Serviceable....probably reasonably durable.
Were the purchasing decision mine, with the pictured product, it would be primarily driven by the asking price!

 

Hi guys,
does anybody have any idea about quality of products from this brand Savile row? I have hard times to figure out which bag is better investment:
https://savilerowco.com/black-texas-leather-document-bag-mlg935blk000
or
https://www.briefcasesuperstore.co.uk/ashwood-heritage-laptop-briefcase-8683-black/p894#tdesc_2

Any suggestions?

Thank you!

 

Hi guys,
does anybody have any idea about quality of products from this brand Savile row? I have hard times to figure out which bag is better investment:
https://savilerowco.com/black-texas-leather-document-bag-mlg935blk000
or
https://www.briefcasesuperstore.co.uk/ashwood-heritage-laptop-briefcase-8683-black/p894#tdesc_2

Any suggestions?

Thank you!

Neither are investments...they are purchases, and not likely very good ones.

 

I loath the bloody things. I hate going into London and being buffeted by idiots' backpacks because they don't notice that wearing a backpack makes them upper body bigger than they realise. I know that they're fashionable, but they look stupid over a smart coat or over a suit.
Don't do it! Get a briefcase and get over the weight!

Backpack wearers deserve *insert gruesome demise of your choice here*

Now, before you judge me as harsh - try getting on a train with one of these ignoramus, who know very well that they keep whacking other passengers in the face and so on and so forth but they just don't care. Backpack wearing is one of the most selfish activities (short of a spree-killing) that any person could undertake in a public space.

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... when I see well dressed man wearing a backpack after dismounting a bike and view it as the look of someone responsibly connected to the larger world.

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I am not particularly bothered by backpack wearers - sometimes they are as much an inconvenience or menace to themselves as to other people, as when they become trapped in turnstiles and automatic doors. However, they should not really be worn while cycling. There are real dangers in raising the cyclist's centre of gravity, and when the backpack unexpectedly shifts, or (a more remote risk I agree) becomes attached to a passing vehicle ...

 

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Neither are investments...they are purchases, and not likely very good ones.

Hi,
thank you. In this case is there any brand you can suggest? For example what about ted baker? You wrote they are not good ones, because leather is not good quality or whats the problem?

Thank you

 

, as is my thought when I see well dressed man wearing a backpack after dismounting a bike and view it as the look of someone responsibly connected to the larger world. /

I view him as a silly man who hasn't thought fully about what he's doing. If one wishes to dress well and carry stuff on a bike, then a basket in which one can carry one's briefcase is far better, or a pannier or carrier of some kind at the back would make more sense, as well as being far safer.

 

I am not particularly bothered by backpack wearers - sometimes they are as much an inconvenience or menace to themselves as to other people, as when they become trapped in turnstiles and automatic doors. However, they should not really be worn while cycling. There are real dangers in raising the cyclist's centre of gravity, and when the backpack unexpectedly shifts, or (a more remote risk I agree) becomes attached to a passing vehicle ...

I know of a French man who was paralysed from the neck down in a very minor traffic accident in this way. Riding a scooter in Paris while carrying a laptop in his backpack, when he came to a sudden stop. The laptop in the backpack flew up and hit him in the back of the neck, edge on, just below his helmet.

 

I think it depends on the work environment. I am in a bus-casual environment,I wouldn't wear it here to work. I personally find them bulky and makes me feel like i am in elementary school again. A shoulder bag or a messenger bag is nicer in my opinion.

 

Nothing to do with a rigidity of view. A backpack in a crowded place, like London, is a menace, a nuisance. It is very hard to move safely and courteously in a crowded space with a backpack on, as the wearer is rarely aware of it knocking into people, or the potential of knocking into people.

My experience with backpack toting people is exactly this.

 

How about a happy medium of sorts. You say that your main problem with a brief case is that you have to lug around too much weight so the backpack makes it easier on your back. Forum members for the most part (and most of the web from a simple search indicates) argue that even such a nice and expensive leather backpack is not correctly suited for business attire or that the wearing of such a backpack is at the very least uncurteous to those around you (both of which I happen to agree with.) How about a briefcase with wheels? A google search shows many options of differing quality and style. Yes, you would just carry the bag when getting on and off the train but you could then extend out the handle and roll like a small piece of luggage when you were on an even surface and not so close against other people thus relieving all of the weight. You save your suits and your back with a little thinking outside of the box because you have a problem which does not fit into a normal solution.

 

How about a briefcase with wheels?

Or a motorized piece of luggage?

"Simple and attractive...there's even a built-in umbrella."

"Live Luggage! Because the world is not flat."

 

Or a motorized piece of luggage?

"Simple and attractive...there's even a built-in umbrella."

"Live Luggage! Because the world is not flat."

Or, taking your motorised luggage a step further.....
Chinese man invents suitcase that doubles as an electric scooter

 

How about a happy medium of sorts. You say that your main problem with a brief case is that you have to lug around too much weight so the backpack makes it easier on your back. Forum members for the most part (and most of the web from a simple search indicates) argue that even such a nice and expensive leather backpack is not correctly suited for business attire or that the wearing of such a backpack is at the very least uncurteous to those around you (both of which I happen to agree with.) How about a briefcase with wheels? A google search shows many options of differing quality and style. Yes, you would just carry the bag when getting on and off the train but you could then extend out the handle and roll like a small piece of luggage when you were on an even surface and not so close against other people thus relieving all of the weight. You save your suits and your back with a little thinking outside of the box because you have a problem which does not fit into a normal solution.

Quite. I have been using this model for a couple of years now and find it excellent!

 

Or, taking your motorised luggage a step further.....
Chinese man invents suitcase that doubles as an electric scooter

That's taking it up a notch!