[vikingmike]

I recently purchased 2 made to measure suits from a very reputable Japanese retailer (hanabishi). To be honest, I don't know what to think. Admittedly, I'm quite new to menswear and, aside from a couple tailor made suits I got in Vietnam, have little idea as to what a proper fitting suit is supposed to look like.

Some background: I'm looking to embark upon a sales career and searched for a well-wearing material that could put up with some heavy use. I found a couple material samples that I really liked. The store measured me and about 3 weeks later, delivered these suits to my house personally. At that time I didn't have the time to try them on (I know, I know). The pants fit absolutely perfectly but as for the jacket, it strikes me as a bit big and bulky. I understand that the material over the abdomen is supposed to "give" to the size of one fist...it passes this test alright, but I'm in pretty good shape and I feel that I look a bit pudgy in these suits.

I guess what I'm looking for here are some honest opinions. How do these look? If I bring them back to the tailors, what alterations should I request?

https://s359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/vikingmike69/

Thank you

 

[Mannix]

The link didn't work for the pictures.

 

[vikingmike]

My apologies. It should work now.

 

[Mannix]

I like the style of it, and the color. It looks a little loose throughout the chest and should be taken in. The sleeves could be a little shorter to show some shirt cuff, but I suppose this is personal preference. I like to show a lot of cuff.

 

[Matt S]

The jacket is too big. The chest is too large and the shoulders are too wide. Is that a 2-button or a 3-button?

 

[video2]

The jacket is too big. The chest is too large and the shoulders are too wide. Is that a 2-button or a 3-button?

Agree

 

[Pentheos]

Your jackets are huge -- suitable for a gorilla.

 

[Matt S]

Because it is too big in the chest, I don't believe it can be altered down properly. Have them cut you a new suit, with a more traditional button stance.

 

[sleats]

I never like to say negative things about tailors for fear of people perceiving me as to be "talking up my own book" but I quite shocked at the suit. I would really would return the jacket (if possible) I would suggest that the jacket has been made for someone with a chest at least 2 inches larger than yours. The shoulders are far too big as is everything about the jacket. Frontal creasing is a testiment to the panels being too big. The arm holes are too big so you will never get that waist supression that is characteristic of a tailored suit. I am sorry for the negative comments on this but my honest advice would be to ask the tailor to start again. I wouldnt allow this out of my workshop I am afraid.

 

[logicalfrank]

Agreed. Honestly, unless for some reason you asked for gigantical shoulders on your suit, you didn't get what you've paid for and deserve either a better fitting jacket or your money refunded.

 

[rgrpark]

I think old fashioned Asian tailors assume that you want your suit to be huge with big shoulders because small Asian folks like to look bigger than they are (hey I'm Asian I can say this).

With that mentality, they just make things way bigger. I wear a size
36-38S (depending on the brand) and my first MTM suits from South Korea when I didn't know better had to have been at least a size 40.

 

[sleats]

I think old fashioned Asian tailors assume that you want your suit to be huge with big shoulders because small Asian folks like to look bigger than they are (hey I'm Asian I can say this).

With that mentality, they just make things way bigger. I wear a size
36-38S (depending on the brand) and my first MTM suits from South Korea when I didn't know better had to have been at least a size 40.

I largely agree with this assertion. People are so lured into buying cheap suits with out thinking of the style. They make for guys with differing tastes to ones own and as you say asian tailors cut very differently to a UK tailor or a US one. I think one day people will stop being duped by the cheap price suits purchased when abroad and have a flight to quality but it never happens... the lure of the fictitional cashmere cloth snares the unsuspecting everytime...

 

[El Captain]

The chest area is large and it is very interesting to know about the asian tailors and their sizing.

 

[rgrpark]

The chest area is large and it is very interesting to know about the asian tailors and their sizing.

Ask yourself this. Have you ever seen an Asian man over the age of 40 NOT in a suit with huge shoulders?

Previous Korean president. I bet his shoulders barely reach the halfway point to the jacket's shoulders. Rock hard shoulder pads. Very typical look for older Asian folks.

Typical Asian suit fit.

 

[vikingmike]

Yikes! Well thank you everyone for the honest comments. It looks like I'll be having a word with this tailor...or several.

So is the consensus that they should start over from scratch? Or is there any possible way to fix them? These were NOT cheap suits

 

[GBR]

The jacket is too big. The chest is too large and the shoulders are too wide. Is that a 2-button or a 3-button?

Entirely agree - it looks awful in the fourth view I regret to say. I would say start again - the coat is beyond sensible redemption. In fact I would go far as to doubt that a "reputable" tailor would have produced these so maybe money back and go elsewhere.

Can you post front and rear views without the coat please - to see the trousers.

 

[a tailor]

yes its somewhat loose. cant tell from the pics.
what stands out to me is that you have a right low shoulder and it was not fitted for that. thats the reason the right side looks bad.
oh! right hip higher and heavier too.

 

[windsor]

I see the gap at the right side in the photo between shirt and coat, but I would have been less sure about the shoulders since some coat models seem to incorporate built up shoulders.(take a look at Oxxford,Laurent for example) Is there a less subjective way to tell that this coat is too large? Could a measurement be taken acoss the OP"s shoulders and compared to the coat measurement? How about his chest measurement versus the coats dimensions? Is there a standard allowance of say personal measurment plus X inches?

 

[comrade]

If this tailor would produce another jacket for the suit(s) that
conforms to the comments already made without your having
additional expense, and you are satisfied with the final result,
I would nevertheless, advise finding another another tailor.
I know nothing about the fit preferences of asian men over forty
but the jacket you received from your tailor is a grotesque mis-
fit, indicating general incompetence. I can find better fitting jackets
(before alterations) at local resale shops than your "bespoke"
tailor made to order for you. Not that I shop resale.

 

[sleats]

yes its somewhat loose. cant tell from the pics.
what stands out to me is that you have a right low shoulder and it was not fitted for that. thats the reason the right side looks bad.
oh! right hip higher and heavier too.

I think its purely as the jacket is to big it is sitting off centre to the body hence on the wearers left side there is a gape at the neck and the left sleeve slightly shorter and gives the impression of a shoulder and hip issue but I think the jacket is playing havoc with his look purely as it is huge.