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This is another suit I have. Trying to decide if it needs to be re-made or just needs some tailoring. The jacket waist needs to be taken in a bit, I think. The pant waist needs cleaned up. I'm not sure if the pant drape can be fixed. The armholes might be too low. Upper back might need to let out a hair.

Thoughts? I appreciate any comments.

 

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The cut looks like it is designed for someone who slouches more in a normal posture. Sometimes photos are exaggerated because the pose is not the natural posture. But at least on the one shot it looks like you are standing up so straight that there is some roll across the upper back and the pitch of the shoulders is off leading to excessive folds along the back of the arms. Whatever - the truth is people will still think it looks ok - but a well fit suit is the one where people will say "nice suit."
 

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So I will be blunt and get to the point right away: if this is your natural posture, nothing OTR/MTM/MTO will fit you right the first time, nor can that be corrected with simple alterations. In these pictures, your posture indicates that you have forward-shoulder, sway-back posture, hollow back, forward hip and what not. Do not try anything that is form-fitting, or somewhat form fitting as it will show these traits immediately. The waists of jacket and trousers are the least importance of concern. To get something OTR that can hide these traits, it will never be form fitting.

Try googling these terms about your posture and verify if you have those traits.

If this is not your natural posture, try relaxing and stand naturally (close your eye if you wish) before taking the pictures. No need for the strange pose of touching your shoulder as I have no clue of what information you are trying to convey.
 

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So I will be blunt and get to the point right away: if this is your natural posture, nothing OTR/MTM/MTO will fit you right the first time, nor can that be corrected with simple alterations. In these pictures, your posture indicates that you have forward-shoulder, sway-back posture, hollow back, forward hip and what not. Do not try anything that is form-fitting, or somewhat form fitting as it will show these traits immediately. The waists of jacket and trousers are the least importance of concern. To get something OTR that can hide these traits, it will never be form fitting.

Try googling these terms about your posture and verify if you have those traits.

If this is not your natural posture, try relaxing and stand naturally (close your eye if you wish) before taking the pictures. No need for the strange pose of touching your shoulder as I have no clue of what information you are trying to convey.
Maybe the touch the shoulder photo is to help determine if the height of the armhole (armscye) is too low?
 

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So I will be blunt and get to the point right away: if this is your natural posture, nothing OTR/MTM/MTO will fit you right the first time, nor can that be corrected with simple alterations. In these pictures, your posture indicates that you have forward-shoulder, sway-back posture, hollow back, forward hip and what not. Do not try anything that is form-fitting, or somewhat form fitting as it will show these traits immediately. The waists of jacket and trousers are the least importance of concern. To get something OTR that can hide these traits, it will never be form fitting.

Try googling these terms about your posture and verify if you have those traits.

If this is not your natural posture, try relaxing and stand naturally (close your eye if you wish) before taking the pictures. No need for the strange pose of touching your shoulder as I have no clue of what information you are trying to convey.
I'm not sure how natural the posture is. I'll try to get some additional photos. I think I have an anterior pelvic tilt as opposed to a sway back, but I'll look into this.
 

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Just to clarify about the sway-back vs anterior pelvis tilt postures, I will use the this picture to illustrate the point:


Here you have your pelvis tilted forward, kind of like sticking out your stomach. This causes the back of your trousers tilted forward. Observe the position of your stomach relative to your foot, It is as if you are leaning forward on an incline slope. This is anterior pelvis tilt, and with this, you need wider trouser at the ankle and shorter back rise to create the un-interrupt drapes front to back on your trousers.

However, if you look at your upper torso and head, your head and shoulder move forward while the thorax tilted back. Although that tilting does not move your upper body further back, it is a form of sway-back posture. That is the reason.

So, different suits, the same posture. That just solidifies that this is how you normally stand, and that ascertains my initial claim that nothing OTR will fit you right in the first time. Just look at how you stand and you can see where it leads to the fit problems.

My hope is simply to raise your awareness of how you stand and how it impacts the fit of the suit on you. How you want to proceed is your own choice as this is the Internet.
 

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Just to clarify about the sway-back vs anterior pelvis tilt postures, I will use the this picture to illustrate the point:


Here you have your pelvis tilted forward, kind of like sticking out your stomach. This causes the back of your trousers tilted forward. Observe the position of your stomach relative to your foot, It is as if you are leaning forward on an incline slope. This is anterior pelvis tilt, and with this, you need wider trouser at the ankle and shorter back rise to create the un-interrupt drapes front to back on your trousers.

However, if you look at your upper torso and head, your head and shoulder move forward while the thorax tilted back. Although that tilting does not move your upper body further back, it is a form of sway-back posture. That is the reason.

So, different suits, the same posture. That just solidifies that this is how you normally stand, and that ascertains my initial claim that nothing OTR will fit you right in the first time. Just look at how you stand and you can see where it leads to the fit problems.

My hope is simply to raise your awareness of how you stand and how it impacts the fit of the suit on you. How you want to proceed is your own choice as this is the Internet.
Thanks for the detailed info. Do you think my posture makes the waist suppression appear more extreme than it probably in the second suit? It can be almost unnoticeable depending how I stand.
 

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Thanks for the detailed info. Do you think my posture makes the waist suppression appear more extreme than it probably in the second suit? It can be almost unnoticeable depending how I stand.
Either way, I think it's a touch too suppressed. You can get away with it, but overall I think relaxing it just a bit will improve the overall look and make you not seem as straight-jacketed.
 
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