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Works of art!
. . . that go bang! And to answer Clintotron, something around the low to mid six figures. And, yes, you still can get it if you have that sort of money. And there are those who do and who will . . .
 

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^^Indeed, the pieces in the pictures of the medieval arms exhibits are extraordinary works of art and ironically not as functionally efficient as one might think. I could never afford the art of the firearms represented, but over the years I have spent a fair amount of money on what I believe to be quality firearms in my collection. It appears I will have to be content appreciating the art of the weapons through museum exhibits and pictures in reference books and be satisfied with my ability to consistently tear the bullseye out of targets with the firearms racked in my gun safe(s). LOL. ;)

Those are beautiful pieces...each and every one. Thank you for sharing them with us SG 67. I do miss the Chicago Art Museum, but think Chicago's Museum of Natural History remains my favorite!
 

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^^Indeed, the pieces in the pictures of the medieval arms exhibits are extraordinary works of art and ironically not as functionally efficient as one might think. I could never afford the art of the firearms represented, but over the years I have spent a fair amount of money on what I believe to be quality firearms in my collection. It appears I will have to be content appreciating the art of the weapons through museum exhibits and pictures in reference books and be satisfied with my ability to consistently tear the bullseye out of targets with the firearms racked in my gun safe(s). LOL. ;)

Those are beautiful pieces...each and every one. Thank you for sharing them with us SG 67. I do miss the Chicago Art Museum, but think Chicago's Museum of Natural History remains my favorite!
They are both destinations worthy of a visit . . . rather a long visit.
 

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^ the wealthy then weren't all that different from the rich now.

Perhaps the dueling pistols were functional and meant to be used, but the more ornate pieces were meant to be decorative and for collectors.
I came across a boxed pair in an antique shop in, I think, Leiden. They had no price tag and operating on the premise that if you have to ask you can't afford it, I walked by. Later I found them for sale online and, I was right, I couldn't afford them. But they certainly were lovely!
 

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Reminds me of my now (very long ago) deceased great uncle. A true conniver, if one ever existed, died early 1990's. He owned a coal company in NW PA, was well-heeled, but live like a pauper (well, he did have an underground shooting range, going out from his garage, under a state highway-you can do this with the equipment he owned).

Anyhow early in my life, we never got along, but became very good friends during his final decades of life (we were both hobbyist woodworkers). I was at his home one evening, and he said to come here, he wanted to show me something. Now bear in mind, he had one glass eye, and pretty poor eyesight in the other. He told me about a guy that owed him a bit of money and he was having no luck in getting it. He told the guy he wanted something of value to hold, now here my uncle showed me the shotgun. He beamed from ear to ear, how he got this shotgun, worth thousands of dollars, in exchange for the hundreds of debt. The shotgun was engraved, checkered, but to me didn't seem right. In fact, to me, it felt like a $25 dollar Rolex, bought in Times Square.

Unc said it is a Boss! It did have a leather gun case, but didn't have that feel of fine luggage. Giving the gun a closer look, particularly at the punched name, I said, did you see how lightly the fourth letter is, and that it looks more like a T than a S?

We never spoke of the Bost again, though at his funeral, in our rememberances, I did speak of it.
 

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Kind of like this?

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Sold at auction for $700 . . .
Similar, but more ornate: bear in mind when I saw the gun, it was in the early 80's, but the gun did have similar sidelock plates, but then again so many Turkish made guns today have fake plates.

Before he died, he "sold" several guns to my wife to give to me, but none were "collectible, with the best one being a 513T .22 target rifle, with 3/4" tube Unertl target scope. Others were Savage Fox side by side and several H&R pistols.

He had quite a woodworking shop, but his daughter sold all the tools. He had quite a stash of lumber that he promised to me, but like a fool, I never got it before he pass, and it also was sold by his daughter.
 

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My grandfather had a Holland & Holland over/under shotgun, which remains as beautiful a gun as I've ever held; it's now in the collection of a shooting-enthusiast cousin of mine (good hands, as she's always run a tight ship in every regard, so I can trust that it's well cared for and fully insured!)

12 bore, IIRC. No idea what it might be worth... probably $40-50k?

I do have "pretty shotgun" - it says exactly that - on my wish list; maybe when my daughter is old enough to shoot pheasants at Kingston Downs I'll treat myself to an heirloom quality "dad's gun".

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These are firearms I only dream about!

I cringe going into a modern gun shop, with black stocks and matte silver barrels. To me, it's oil finished walnut, shiny, deep bluing, smell of Hoppes #9. Ah, the good old days!
 

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These are firearms I only dream about!

I cringe going into a modern gun shop, with black stocks and matte silver barrels. To me, it's oil finished walnut, shiny, deep bluing, smell of Hoppes #9. Ah, the good old days!
There are still some pretty Italian shotguns.

Check out Connecticut Shotguns - US made to a very high standard. Their A-10 model is a good introductory "luxe" shotgun, available from $8-9k or so; that's one maker I have my eye on. I believe they do custom work, too.

If you have just a good, serviceable shotgun, you can always do like we do with anything - have a craftsman go over it. Swap out some stocks and so on and you can breathe some life into a dull black shotgun. I imagine a knowledgeable dealer can point you to some affordable models which take customization well.

Then you can focus on the *real* challenge: finding a good bird dog

DH
 

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There are still some pretty Italian shotguns.

Check out Connecticut Shotguns - US made to a very high standard. Their A-10 model is a good introductory "luxe" shotgun, available from $8-9k or so; that's one maker I have my eye on. I believe they do custom work, too.

If you have just a good, serviceable shotgun, you can always do like we do with anything - have a craftsman go over it. Swap out some stocks and so on and you can breathe some life into a dull black shotgun. I imagine a knowledgeable dealer can point you to some affordable models which take customization well.

Then you can focus on the *real* challenge: finding a good bird dog

DH
As far a short ornate, I have a Charles Daly Imperial grade O/U skeet gun, enough for me, bought 30 years ago when I was regularly shooting.

I "accumulate" Stevens falling block single shots, as the first gun dear old departed dad bought for me. Was a .25 rimfire Stevens Favorite (mid Fifties). My favorite style of rifles are lever actions and I am planning on having a Marlin 336 in .35 Remmy, sent to Turnbull Restorations, to have it "fancied up".
 
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