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#21 ·
familyman said:
For summer I think you need to stick to polos with jeans. It's classic preppy and it's far easier to find a polo that has clean lines than a tucked OCBD. The OCBD in summer really seems to work best with the sleeves rolled up and khaki shorts. Classic trad look.
When it's cooler you can do sweater/OCBD with jeans and it looks great. One of my faves is a V neck sweater vest, OCBD sleeves rolled up with jeans combo.
There's plenty of room in the trad/preppy camp for jeans and OCBD's, but I'm not sure that it's worth putting too much energy into wearing those two elements together in warmer weather.
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Quite right, familyman, quite right. But I must make a couple things clear: I don't mean that I want to come up with a special "summer look," as I'll be maintaining this year-round if it works; also, I plan to experiment with "premium" denim, as in Streetwear-and-Denim-forum denim, not your standard Levi's 501s.

I'll explain my reasoning later, when I've got something to show for my efforts.

And just so you all know, I don't care about whether or not it's pure trad.
 
#22 ·
I know that I like jeans with an old OCBD. I wear my denim from Kevin's here in Georgia with my more worn BB OCBD's and a pair of my LHS. I think it makes for a nice casual look, and a bit different than my day-to-day get-up.
 
#23 ·
Andy Roo said:
Quite right, familyman, quite right. But I must make a couple things clear: I don't mean that I want to come up with a special "summer look," as I'll be maintaining this year-round if it works; also, I plan to experiment with "premium" denim, as in Streetwear-and-Denim-forum denim, not your standard Levi's 501s.

I'll explain my reasoning later, when I've got something to show for my efforts.

And just so you all know, I don't care about whether or not it's pure trad.
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Gotcha. I too have been lusting after a great pair of jeans. I was just a breath away from a pair of 'Canes earlier in the year. So close.
I think I know where you're going with this and some pictures would be great when you figure it out.
 
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#24 ·
I wear 501s and BB OCBD's all the time and I think it looks great. More importantly to me, my wife really likes it. Who am I to fight her on it? :icon_smile_wink:

Tradly or not, I love my 501s and wouldn't give them up. I don't cuff my chinos, either. So, it's trad based on my personal preferences. Whether it "fits" or not is not too important to me. I say to each his own...

TT:teacha:
 
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Inre: jeans vs chinos:
You desk jockeys might think that khakis can be substituted for jeans, but those of us who do a man's job all-day, every-day, know that dirt and stains don't show up on jeans as readily as on khakis.

DD
 
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Prepdad said:
I've worn this combination since high school which was ....ahem... more than a few years ago. As long as the shirt doesn't billow out like a spinnaker and the stomach doesn't meander over the waist like molten lava, I think it looks fine.
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I agree. Slim guys tend to fare better with this look and like everything else, the jeans and the OCBD have to fit properly. One needs to avoid getting tagged with that old phrase "He looks like ten pounds of [stuff] crammed in a five-pound bag."
 
#29 ·
Doctor Damage said:
Inre: jeans vs chinos:
You desk jockeys might think that khakis can be substituted for jeans, but those of us who do a man's job all-day, every-day, know that dirt and stains don't show up on jeans as readily as on khakis.
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I blow out two pairs of jeans a month in my job. That's why they're $10 specials of a BigBox store and you know what? No one can tell unless they looking at my butt for a label....and then I get concerned.
 
#30 ·
Parker's right--I wear jeans with OCBDs and sport coats all of the time. I don't wear low-slung jeans down on my hips. They sit about an inch beneath my belly button.

Parker's example is right on the money. It's kind of a slouchy, casual-but-smart preppy look; I understand why some object, but I like the combo. It's unfussy, chic, and masculine.

The right cut of jeans is crucial--too tight and you're Seinfeld, too loose and you're sloppy. The straight-cut Brooks jeans work well for me--wish I could find chinos with that fir.
 
#32 ·
Untilted said:
The "wife-likes-it" comments have made me wonder why that combo looks sexy to women..............
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Its because the jeans show that you are a manly man, but the collared shirt shows that you clean up well and are mature. Isn't that what all women want? I too recieve these comments about the combo, and I think the fit of the jeans is key. Crappy jeans will look really bad - you need to shop around for the pair that is most flattering on your body type. My best fitting pair of jeans were bought at a diesel boutique (which is perhaps the most untradly shop ever), but they fit me perfectly and are a classic design (without any fading, tearing, wild pockets, etc).

I do this look a fair bit, but only when its cool out, and in that case I'm generally wearing a sweater over my ocbd. I think that jeans + ocbd + tweed/cord sportcoat + boots (chukkas or a blucher type boot) is one of my favorite fall looks. Throw on a sweater and a waxed coat when it gets to wintertime and youre good to go. Jeans and a college crewneck sweatshirt is a nice Saturday morning/Sunday afternoon look for bumming around the house or watching your sport of choice.

I can't imagine wearing jeans in the summer like most men do - I don't want to be unpleasant, but with the heat and humidity, it gets pretty hot and sweaty when wearing jeans. Jeans and a polo never looks good to me either. I also can't stand the wearing of jeans with a seersucker jacket.
 
#33 ·
Andy Roo said:
The best way to go about pairing an OCBD and jeans may be to have your tailor remove some excess fabric from your shirts. I hear this costs about $20 per shirt.
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Save the money to be spent on alterations and employ a "french tuck" when tucking in your shirt...prior to securing the waist of your jeans, grasp the excess fabric on the sides of your shirt between the thumb and forefinger. Using your thumb to set the apex of the crease, fold the excess fabric, on each side of the shirt to the rear and smooth into the trousers, as you tuck the shirt in and secure the trousers about your waist. Provides a nicely contoured fit, at least initially!
 
#34 ·
Brownshoe said:
Parker's right--I wear jeans with OCBDs and sport coats all of the time. I don't wear low-slung jeans down on my hips. They sit about an inch beneath my belly button.

Parker's example is right on the money. It's kind of a slouchy, casual-but-smart preppy look; I understand why some object, but I like the combo. It's unfussy, chic, and masculine.

The right cut of jeans is crucial--too tight and you're Seinfeld, too loose and you're sloppy. The straight-cut Brooks jeans work well for me--wish I could find chinos with that fir.
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For me, this sums it up nicely. Well said, Brownshoe...

TT
 
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So, women like a manly man that shops around at boutiques for jeans that fit his body?

Yeah, ok.

I buy the man's job Levi's story, but not the jean boutique one. A manly is probably only supposed to know about two types of jeans Levi's and Wranglers.

Wives use reverse psychology. They tell you they like what makes you look terrible. Wives like it because it makes you look broke or like she dressed you. Therefore they know other women won't hit on you. Blue jeans and a blue oxford is the worst offender of these.

Put on a nice suit and your Wife won't say how nice you look, but "WHO ARE YOU DRESSING UP FOR TODAY?" or "WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO IMPRESS?"

That's when you know she really likes it.

Sorry, not buying it. Seinfeld is the perfect example. He's everything women say they want in a man - not great looking, but has a great sense of humor. Would they go out with him? Sure - now that he's rich! ;)
 
#36 ·
ksinc said:
So, women like a manly man that shops around at boutiques for jeans that fit his body?
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Im my experience, yes. I know you're trying to make it sound as homosexual as possible, but stopping by a few stores to find a decent pair of jeans is really not abnormal for any of the guys I know - those who care about how they look or not. Secondly, I have been told directly (by the females themselves), and indirectly (by their significant others who have been told to ask me for advice) that my clothes always look nice, and that they would like my advice as to where to get a certain item of clothes. If a girl is asking you to tell her man where to find a suit for an event isn't a compliment, I'm not sure what is.

ksinc said:
Yeah, ok.
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:rolleyes:

ksinc said:
I buy the man's job Levi's story, but not the jean boutique one. A manly is probably only supposed to know about two types of jeans Levi's and Wranglers.
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Glad that working out for you. Are the only cars that should exist pick-ups?

ksinc said:
Wives use reverse psychology. They tell you they like what makes you look terrible. Wives like it because it makes you look broke or like she dressed you. Therefore they know other women won't hit on you. Blue jeans and a blue oxford is the worst offender of these.
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Ok, doc. The kind of women I know have a strong preference for a nicely dressed guy wearing a classic mens style - and there is no motivation for all but one of them to be keeping me away from other women.

My mom also likes the jeans and ocbd combo, and I doubt she has any ulterior motives for my dress...

ksinc said:
Put on a nice suit and your Wife won't say how nice you look, but "WHO ARE YOU DRESSING UP FOR TODAY?" or "WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO IMPRESS?"

That's when you know she really likes it.
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You'll know she really likes it if she keeps trying to take it off;)

ksinc said:
Sorry, not buying it. Seinfeld is the perfect example. He's everything women say they want in a man - not great looking, but has a great sense of humor. Would they go out with him? Sure - now that he's rich! ;)
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Jerry Seinfeld is hardly what any of us would consider to be an example of a well-dressed gentleman. Nonetheless, there are many reasons to date someone other than clothes - and most of them are far more worthy reasons.
 
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abc123 said:
Im my experience, yes. I know you're trying to make it sound as homosexual as possible, but stopping by a few stores to find a decent pair of jeans is really not abnormal for any of the guys I know - those who care about how they look or not. Secondly, I have been told directly (by the females themselves), and indirectly (by their significant others who have been told to ask me for advice) that my clothes always look nice, and that they would like my advice as to where to get a certain item of clothes. If a girl is asking you to tell her man where to find a suit for an event isn't a compliment, I'm not sure what is.

:rolleyes:

Glad that working out for you. Are the only cars that should exist pick-ups?

Ok, doc. The kind of women I know have a strong preference for a nicely dressed guy wearing a classic mens style - and there is no motivation for all but one of them to be keeping me away from other women.

My mom also likes the jeans and ocbd combo, and I doubt she has any ulterior motives for my dress...

You'll know she really likes it if she keeps trying to take it off;)

Jerry Seinfeld is hardly what any of us would consider to be an example of a well-dressed gentleman. Nonetheless, there are many reasons to date someone other than clothes - and most of them are far more worthy reasons.
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No, I repeated your own thesis in the form of a question. If it sounds homosexual to you that's your own perception of your own idea, since you raised the term diesel boutiques.

FWIW, I've never even heard of them. If the men you know go there fine, they're still men, but the men I know would guess that a diesel boutique either sold truck parts or various grades of diesel like high, low, or ultra-low dyed.

This is the trad forum.

IMHO the manly man in jeans is wearing Levi's or maybe Wranglers. A working guy might wear denim work pants like I see in the Duluth book. Wranglers if as the saying goes with cowboy boots and hats - if you can ride and win a fight (without a knife). Sorry, it's just an opinion. You brought up the manly men defense of jeans and you said homosexual, not me. I would say maybe metrosexual which is certainly not a manly man. That doesn't mean there is something wrong with it, but there is a difference between that and a manly man. And further; I don't see how using your Mom as an example of a woman liking your clothes helps show your defensiveness in a better light, but that's just more manly man chauvinism showing - I guess.

Speaking as a self-annointed manly man - save the rolling eyes bit.
 
#38 ·
Seinfeld is the perfect example of this look! Heck, the picture earlier in this thread could easily be him :) I always figured it was the look of an ambivalent man-child, reaching back to his younger years with the jeans and "kicks" but acknowledging his increasing years and responsibility with the OCBD. Seinfeld's own portrayal of his character to a "T".

With the big series ending tomorrow night, think on this: anyone here ready to tell those Armani clad gents they are not "manly"? :icon_smile_big:

The part about a manly man going to "boutiques"...come on, that is hilarious! Can anyone see a denim sporting Clint Eastwood commenting on men that shop at boutiques in his prime?
 
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Wayfarer said:
The part about a manly man going to "boutiques"...come on, that is hilarious! Can anyone see a denim sporting Clint Eastwood commenting on men that shop at boutiques in his prime?
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I don't know about the rest of you "manly" TRADs but, when I need a new pair of Levi's, I don't shop at a botique...I find an outlaw biker, kick his a** and take his jeans! (winks)
 
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