Are the fits of EG's 82 and 202 lasts pretty comparable. Would any of you describe the 82 as 'fashion forward'? A salesman trying to sell me on a pair of 202s called the 82 'too fashion forward', but that was not my impression of the 82 last at all. It simply looks sleeker to me. Then again, I have not done an in-person side-by-side comparison of two EG oxfords in the same size/width, one 82 and one 202. What are your thoughts?
EG 82 vs 202
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Are the fits of EG's 82 and 202 lasts pretty comparable. Would any of you describe the 82 as 'fashion forward'? A salesman trying to sell me on a pair of 202s called the 82 'too fashion forward', but that was not my impression of the 82 last at all. It simply looks sleeker to me. Then again, I have not done an in-person side-by-side comparison of two EG oxfords in the same size/width, one 82 and one 202. What are your thoughts?
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Anyone who would call the 82 fashion forward is either still struggling with the idea that man can fly or has a large inventory of shoes on the 202 last. Berluti is fashion forward, not Edward Green.
The elegant 82 last is a bit longer than the round toe 202 and not quite as wide. According to Tony Gaziano, who designed it, it's a standard width, where the 202 is slightly wider than standard for its sizing. A few men will take a different size in the 82 than they do in the 202.
The elegant 82 last is a bit longer than the round toe 202 and not quite as wide. According to Tony Gaziano, who designed it, it's a standard width, where the 202 is slightly wider than standard for its sizing. A few men will take a different size in the 82 than they do in the 202.
I would not describe the 82 as "fashion forward" and echo manton's description of some 202s looking "bulbous." I absolutely love my 202 Dovers, but am much less enamored with my 202 Hythes.
Honestly, without knowing ahead of time, I would never guess both are the same last.
To me, the 202 Hythe order was a mistake, and I think just about every EG oxford would looks better in an 82 or 606.
With the bulbous, rounded toe, you run the risk of an oxford looking too "front heavy." That's just my opinion, learned the hard way.
Honestly, without knowing ahead of time, I would never guess both are the same last.
To me, the 202 Hythe order was a mistake, and I think just about every EG oxford would looks better in an 82 or 606.
With the bulbous, rounded toe, you run the risk of an oxford looking too "front heavy." That's just my opinion, learned the hard way.
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I really love the 202 last. I find it perfectly naturally shaped and elegant. It is the classic English round toed last. I am a bit fan of the 202.
This illustration in a Japanese magazine shows (on the right) the comparative silhouettes of the 82 and 202 lasts.
The dotted line is meant to be the 202 silhouette but they do say in the text that the 82 is longer and narrower.
This illustration in a Japanese magazine shows (on the right) the comparative silhouettes of the 82 and 202 lasts.
The dotted line is meant to be the 202 silhouette but they do say in the text that the 82 is longer and narrower.
These were definitely my impressions re: the 82 last from the pictures I have seen. I much preferred the 82.
So I now know my size in EG 202s: UK 10.5 regular width (is that an E in UK sizing)?
Do I need to try on EG 82s before ordering a pair via mail, or is it safe to assume that I will be the same size in the 82 that I am in the 202?
Anyone know offhand where I might find an 82 oxford in NY to try on? Saks only had 202 and some loafers.
So I now know my size in EG 202s: UK 10.5 regular width (is that an E in UK sizing)?
Do I need to try on EG 82s before ordering a pair via mail, or is it safe to assume that I will be the same size in the 82 that I am in the 202?
Anyone know offhand where I might find an 82 oxford in NY to try on? Saks only had 202 and some loafers.
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The 888 is a beautiful last, I'm also a fan of the 808 last.
89 runs large. 82 does not, despite the elongated toe.
Please note that the RLPL 89 last is a narrower but softer/rounder chisel toe, and an RLPL US "D" width is actually a UK "E" width unlike the 888 last shoes which really were a UK "D" width. This little-known width fact may throw off your comparisons with 888 and 82 last shoes.
I think some people take the same 89 last size as their 888 size, while others can go 1/2 size smaller in the 89 last.
I think some people take the same 89 last size as their 888 size, while others can go 1/2 size smaller in the 89 last.
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I love the 82!
I have found that the 82 fits the same as a 202 and have kept the same size. I would also not go back to the 202. I have a few old pairs of 88's but had to go up two sizes and down a width to fit.
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I have found that the 82 fits the same as a 202 and have kept the same size. I would also not go back to the 202. I have a few old pairs of 88's but had to go up two sizes and down a width to fit.
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I only have one pair on the 89 last, so I'm not an authority at all, but I agree with jcusey and disagree with josepidal.
I also believe 89 runs slightly large, maybe ¼ size bigger. (In my case, as it's for a pair of boots, that's just right.)
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Thanks. I have a pair of RLPL Carter/89 last on the way and if there's a little extra room then I'll know to order the same size in the 82. If not, I'll go up half a size in the 82.
I took a look at past comments on the 89 last which seemed to conflict, then I discovered that with respect to the 89 last, I can fit into my 888 last size and one-half size down.
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