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Originally posted by illmaticnyc

what is the black stuff that comes onto the cloth when polishing silver?
are you supposed to keep buffing the silver until you see no black residue?

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Silver oxide. Which is why silver if left long enough without cleaning goes completely black.
The tarnish is not silver oxide but silver sulphide, and salts of other metals in the silver alloy.

Some of the techniques described above, while removing the tarnish, may reduce the value of silver pieces (see the section on tarnish removal in this Wikipedia entry).

Aus_MD
 
quote:Originally posted by Aus_MD

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Originally posted by illmaticnyc

what is the black stuff that comes onto the cloth when polishing silver?
are you supposed to keep buffing the silver until you see no black residue?

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Silver oxide. Which is why silver if left long enough without cleaning goes completely black.
The tarnish is not silver oxide but silver sulphide, and salts of other metals in the silver alloy.

Aus_MD
Where does the sulphur come from?
 
quote:Originally posted by Rich

Where does the sulphur come from?
Predominantly pollution, industrial and vehicular (sulphur oxides, that also cause acid rain). Tarnishing of silver occurs more rapidly in cities. DougNZ may know that in Rotorua (a city in New Zealand with geothermal activity and high concentrations of hydrogen sulphide ('rotten-egg gas')) tarnshing occurs very rapidly.

Aus_MD
 
It takes quite a bit of silver to do you much harm. The LD50 in mice for collodial silver (dose at which 50% of the mice died) is about 100 mg/kg (in a 150 lb guy, that's 7 grams of silver - that's a lot). In humans, "[t]he estimated total dose required to induce argyria by ingestion is in the range of 1-30 g for soluble silver salts (Nordberg and Gerhardsson, 1988)." Argyria is that blue skin thing shown earlier in the thread.

And for my final trick, if you don't want to remove the silver from your utensils (with that cloth or silver polish), put the silverware into a pan lined with aluminium foil and add hot water, a hefty pinch of salt, and a bit of baking soda. You'll reduce the oxidized silver sulfide back to metallic silver.

CT

PS Why is this in the fashion section?
 
quote:Originally posted by ChubbyTiger

And for my final trick, if you don't want to remove the silver from your utensils (with that cloth or silver polish), put the silverware into a pan lined with aluminium foil and add hot water, a hefty pinch of salt, and a bit of baking soda. You'll reduce the oxidized silver sulfide back to metallic silver.
Ah, now isn't that the same principle as these special metal racks for silverware you put in your dishwasher? I've never dared use them. And to put the thread back on the fashion rails, what about ultrasound for cleaning silver jewelry?
 
I pity those that live in geothermal cities like Rotorua. Most there get their silverware rhodium plated ... at huge cost.

Ultrasonics are great for shaking dirt out of items, and are particularly useful for jewellers who have just polished an item which ends up with rouge in all the difficult to clean places. However, ultrasonics are only good for cleaning and not for removing tarnish. Also, you must be careful about what goes in there: no organic materials, no ferrous metals, nothing hollow, and only gemstones that can take the shake. As a rule of thumb, no green stones in the ultrasonic, but I qualify that by saying that some are okay, and many other types and colours of gemstone are not!

I was interested to read the Wikipedia entry and agree that silver foam is the best material for the home cleaner.
 
quote:Originally posted by AlanC

I've used a on sterling items like cufflinks. I prefer to leave some tarnish, though, in the nooks and crannies.
A Sunhine Cloth is the best for doing silver or gold.
I've tried everything.
The Sunshine Cloth comes out on top.
Buy a dozen.
You'll want to give them to friends.

mk
 
I agree with Doug, Haggerty's is great. Polishing silver is near and dear to my heart, as my bagpipes have a large amount of hand chastened, UK hallmarked silver on them. To prevent tarnish, I add a coat of a microcrystalline wax, both to the silver and the wood. Probably not a good idea for eating utensils.

Of course, one can always take anything to a jeweler's for lathe buffing.
 
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