Tom Ford Suit Fits?

DonnyDB10 · Sep 10, 2016

Hello everyone!

So Tom Ford is easily one of my favorite brands for suits/tuxedos, but far too expensive for me to afford as of now. I really like the waist suppression, the broad shoulders, and the wide lapels. There's just a couple of things that are confusing me though...

Are TF suits considered to be slim fitting? I ask because most slim fit suits have narrow shoulders, and thinner lapels yet every picture I see of a TF suit demonstrates just the opposite. Has anyone had any experience with TF suits? Are they cut slim, or are they considered to be loose?

Thanks!

SG_67 · Sep 10, 2016

Didn't start another thread asking this same question?

Dhaller · Sep 10, 2016

Just look at it! Not too many tighter brands out there.

I really don't see how it can work for James Bond.

"James! Quick! Your ankle holster!"
"I'm trying, but I can't get the pantsleg up!"

"James, why are you wearing your wetsuit? The dive is tomorrow."
"This is my Tom Ford suit, Q."
"Oh."

DH

JBierly · Sep 11, 2016

If you really are interested go to a store that has a good selection of Tom Ford suits where the sales people know their product. The Madison avenue store in NYC has very knowledgable sales people who can walk you through all of the fits - currently Spencer, Windsor and O'Conner I believe which translates into letters - I know the O'Connor is Y and I think the Windsor is A but I may be wrong on that. The Spencer is a single vent. The O'Connor very lean with thinner lapels and 19 cm legs (indeed - this is very thin hence the joke about the ankle holster as a back up piece - fugget about it! . The Windsor has 21 cm legs. Most of the lapels are peaked and wider on the Windsor if that is what you want. I have seen some notched lapels on some of the O'Connors but really I think the Windsor is the most classic Ford look with wide peaked lapels and double vent. If you are tall and thin this is a look you can pull off. If your body habitus is more normal you may struggle with the fit. Daniel Craig is 5' 10" and 175 pounds and pretty ripped. Tom Ford is fairly lean also as are his fashion models. If you don't have the body of a fashion model I wouldn't count on one of these suits turning you into one. One other caveat, I think the Ford suits get a bit of a bad rap because they are expensive and from a designer lapel. The thinking is that if you can find a tailor you can get bespoke for cheaper. The other way of looking at it is if you can find a Tom Ford on the cheap - say half price you have an extremely good deal. Until at least recently the suits were made in the same factory as Zegna Couture. The button hole on the lapel is very nice - maybe better than Brioni or Kiton and more on the par of a Cifonelli for example. I don't think most 2500 dollar bespoke has that level of detail. Indeed my experience is 5000 dollar bespoke doesn't have that level of detail - but I am still learning.....

Tim Correll · Sep 11, 2016

JBierly said:
If you really are interested go to a store that has a good selection of Tom Ford suits where the sales people know their product. The Madison avenue store in NYC has very knowledgable sales people who can walk you through all of the fits - currently Spencer, Windsor and O'Conner I believe which translates into letters - I know the O'Connor is Y and I think the Windsor is A but I may be wrong on that. The Spencer is a single vent. The O'Connor very lean with thinner lapels and 19 cm legs (indeed - this is very thin hence the joke about the ankle holster as a back up piece - fugget about it! . The Windsor has 21 cm legs. Most of the lapels are peaked and wider on the Windsor if that is what you want. I have seen some notched lapels on some of the O'Connors but really I think the Windsor is the most classic Ford look with wide peaked lapels and double vent. If you are tall and thin this is a look you can pull off. If your body habitus is more normal you may struggle with the fit. Daniel Craig is 5' 10" and 175 pounds and pretty ripped. Tom Ford is fairly lean also as are his fashion models. If you don't have the body of a fashion model I wouldn't count on one of these suits turning you into one. One other caveat, I think the Ford suits get a bit of a bad rap because they are expensive and from a designer lapel. The thinking is that if you can find a tailor you can get bespoke for cheaper. The other way of looking at it is if you can find a Tom Ford on the cheap - say half price you have an extremely good deal. Until at least recently the suits were made in the same factory as Zegna Couture. The button hole on the lapel is very nice - maybe better than Brioni or Kiton and more on the par of a Cifonelli for example. I don't think most 2500 dollar bespoke has that level of detail. Indeed my experience is 5000 dollar bespoke doesn't have that level of detail - but I am still learning.....

Savile Row Tailors Chittleborough & Morgan, Kathryn Sargent and Maurice Sedwell (who are considered to be on par with the French and Japanese and better than the Italians) have that level of detail, as do most French and Japanese tailors (especially the highest priced like Camps DeLuca and Ciffonelli). Only the most expensive Italian tailors (like Caraceni and Rubinacci) have that level of detail.

Off topic, but the three Savile Row tailors mentioned above also match the French and Japanese tailors in quantity of handwork and don't outsource anything. That's why their prices are extremely high (starting prices for a suit are £3,960 for C&M, £5,040 for KS and £5,400 for MS).

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