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Casual shirts meant to be worn out will typically not have as long a tail as dress shirts. That's a nice rule you can use so you don't waste time trying on shirts that you know won't fit.

Otherwise, what oldsarge said.
 
It should be made to be worn untucked, with a straight hem and a split at the side seams. (this is your clue its OK)

If you're talking about a dress shirt with tails longer than the front, I don't think anyone here will give approval.
 
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IMHO, the shirt should be at least long enough that you don't show your ass everytime you bend over.
Back or ass? If you mean ass the shirt should be way below a crotch which is not an option as it looks bad. If you mean back then I understand what you mean.

As for hems. I'm interested in two cases. 1. Hems are straight. 2. Hems are not straight.
 
Back or ass? If you mean ass the shirt should be way below a crotch which is not an option as it looks bad. If you mean back then I understand what you mean.
Right. I meant the lower back/upper buttocks actually. With how low some people wear their jeans nowadays, everytime they bend down, you not only get a glimpse of their back but also their the top of their buttcheeks. Which is just ridiculous. I'll edit the post to be clearer.
 
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Yes, yes, yes, straight hem, no tails, meant to be worn untucked...

No, No, No, never wear a dress shirt (or any shirt with tails) untucked
I can't agree with you on this. There are tons of casual shirts with tails that are supposed to be worn untucked. E.g. I have several colorful ones with short sleeves. They are not supposed to be tucked since they are casual and they have short sleeves.
 
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Right. I meant the lower back/upper buttocks actually. With how low some people wear their jeans nowadays, everytime they bend down, you not only get a glimpse of their back but also their the top of their buttcheeks. Which is just ridiculous. I'll edit the post to be clearer.
Yeah, now I get what you mean. :)

2all, the key question is how low the shirt should cover the fly and seat areas. I have a shirt that is pretty long and covers the fly completely. However If I lean forward seating the back of a shirt tends to go up so the hem end touches the belt. If the shirt is shorter (covers the half of the fly area) the lower back will be seen if you bend or lean forward. It is a dilemma I can't solve. Too long shorts look bad though on the other hand they cover your back properly if you bend or lean forward.
 
I can't agree with you on this. There are tons of casual shirts with tails that are supposed to be worn untucked. E.g. I have several colorful ones with short sleeves. They are not supposed to be tucked since they are casual and they have short sleeves.
I don't understand what casual and short sleeves have to do with tucking in your shirt. If it has tails it was meant to be tucked.
 
I don't understand what casual and short sleeves have to do with tucking in your shirt. If it has tails it was meant to be tucked.
I don't think that holds true anymore. Used to bother me, but for what the Forum generally refers to as "casual wear" it's pretty much a standard look. Just left a few days in Scottsdale. The "tucked in" crowd looked curiously out of place. Sign of the times I guess.
 
Yeah, now I get what you mean. :)

2all, the key question is how low the shirt should cover the fly and seat areas. I have a shirt that is pretty long and covers the fly completely. However If I lean forward seating the back of a shirt tends to go up so the hem end touches the belt. If the shirt is shorter (covers the half of the fly area) the lower back will be seen if you bend or lean forward. It is a dilemma I can't solve. Too long shorts look bad though on the other hand they cover your back properly if you bend or lean forward.
Of course they do, they're shorts :rolleyes2:

But what exactly do you mean by "too long"? A higher rise?
A higher rise looks better and won't even be noticed when wearing your shirt untucked anyway, so that shouldn't be a problem.
 
Of course they do, they're shorts :rolleyes2:

But what exactly do you mean by "too long"? A higher rise?
A higher rise looks better and won't even be noticed when wearing your shirt untucked anyway, so that shouldn't be a problem.
That was a typo. He meant shirts. Notice the i and o are next to each other on your qwerty keyboard.
 
I can't agree with you on this. There are tons of casual shirts with tails that are supposed to be worn untucked. E.g. I have several colorful ones with short sleeves. They are not supposed to be tucked since they are casual and they have short sleeves.
I have a solution for this disagreement and your issue with the shirt exposing your back when you bend forward, or being too long. Just tuck it in.
 
I can't agree with you on this. There are tons of casual shirts with tails that are supposed to be worn untucked. E.g. I have several colorful ones with short sleeves. They are not supposed to be tucked since they are casual and they have short sleeves.
Those shirts are still meant to be tucked, but I often see people wearing shirts with tails untucked. It looks really sloppy to me, but it is indeed fashionable.

On the other hand, shirts with a straight hem and vent can still be worn tucked. Frank Foster makes all of his shirts this way, and none of mine are meant to be worn untucked.
 
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