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Here are my nominations for (a) Tier 1 ties (great ties): Kiton, Borrelli, Attolini, Isaia, Bulgari, Charvet, Marinella, Hermes, Carlo Franco, Sam Hober. Depending on choice of construction, the Kiton, Borrelli, Attolini, Isaia, Bulgari, Carlo Franco, and Sam Hober ties (particularly the lined sevenfolds) are hefty and tie a big knot. I've seen very, very few sevenfold Marinellas and none from Charvet and Hermes. These latter are of lighter construction, more delicate, but made of gorgeous silk and are of the highest quality. Two other makers, Barba and Barbera make ties that are very likely in this class, but I haven't seen them.

One step down, my nominations for (b) Tier 2 ties (very good ties): Brioni, Stefano Ricci, Nicky of Milan, Drake (their 50-oz. model is hefty), Holliday & Brown, Turnbull & Asser, Massimo Bizzocchi, Breuer, Robert Talbott (the sevenfolds and Best of Class lines), Four in Hand, Zegna (but not the Villa Bolgheri line), Canali. Faberge and Ferragamo may be in this class, I'm not sure.

Then dropping to (c) Tier 3 ties (decent to good ties, some at very reasonable prices): Altea, Pucci, Dolce & Gabbana (I have one which is probably more properly of Tier 2 quality), Zegna Villa Bolgheri line, Versace and Armani (both cheap but expensive, if you know what I mean), Hugo Boss, Faconnable, a trio of British ties: Duchamp, Ted Baker, and Paul Smith (all somewhat gaudy), Ralph Lauren Purple Label (purportedly made by Altea), Robert Talbott lower lines like the Chelsea line, Brooks Brothers, Jhane Barnes.

After that, there are ties branded by Hickey-Freeman, RL Polo, Hart, Schaffer & Marx, Ike Behar, Dormeuil, Yves St. Laurent, Christian Dior (the latter two undoubtedly on license), and numerous house brands for retailers like Nordstrom, Harry Rosen, Holt Renfrew (the last two in Canada)--really too many to mention. I have very little acquaintance with any of these, except for the Rosen, Holt-Renfrew, and Dormeuil but wouldn't see these as generally really good ties, although you may find some exceptions.

Just my opinions on the subject. Others will rank-order these brands differently, I'm sure. And I've omitted many brands--either because I forgot them or have no experience with them--that others can comment on. :icon_smile:

Edit: Forgot about Brooks Brothers--nice (particularly their repps) and reasonably-priced. Put in Tier 3, but maybe really 2.5.
This list is exactly what I was looking for. I know this posting is a few years old, but thanks for the info!
 
I'm sure they aren't the highest quality, but Harry Rosen is my to-go for ties.
 
I find this thread extremely intriguing. Gentlemen, thank you for your insights. I've been around the block a time or two on neckwear. For the way I'm hard-wired, I distill my favorite brands down to the following: 1). Zegna (the Quindici line has some astonishing, retina-popping patterns), 2). Brioni (their wovens are especially amazing), and 3). Italo Ferretti (consistently beautiful designs and color combinations). I have a few Kiton 7-fold pieces (paisley). I do find their monochromes and regimental stripes a bit on the bland side. I also have a few gorgeous Dolcepunta ties that are perfectly weighted and tie a killer knot. I've been on the fence with Ike Behar. Used to have quite a few before a big pare-down several years ago.
 
Hi all! Newcomer here and know nothing much about finer details of ties (except knowing that I want to get grenadines lol) and came across this thread ...which provides great info! I saw there's a person who seems to sells ties on another forum and the company is named "spazioartigianale" : https://www.styleforum.net/buyandse...-bespoke-sevenfold-handmade-handrolled-bespoke-tie-service-3-4-and-5-fold.2187/ To my untrained eye the ties seemed to look quite nice - but tie experts here - what do you think? I know it's hard to tell from the pics alone but not sure if it looks legit. Thank you all!
 
Hi all! Newcomer here and know nothing much about finer details of ties (except knowing that I want to get grenadines lol) and came across this thread ...which provides great info! I saw there's a person who seems to sells ties on another forum and the company is named "spazioartigianale" : https://www.styleforum.net/buyandse...-bespoke-sevenfold-handmade-handrolled-bespoke-tie-service-3-4-and-5-fold.2187/ To my untrained eye the ties seemed to look quite nice - but tie experts here - what do you think? I know it's hard to tell from the pics alone but not sure if it looks legit. Thank you all!
Not familiar with that name, but I love the two ties I just got from Chipp. I'm pretty sure they offer grenadines, but my two new ones are challis.
 
Not familiar with that name, but I love the two ties I just got from Chipp. I'm pretty sure they offer grenadines, but my two new ones are challis.
Thanks TK! I checked Chipp and they do have grenadines but not in the grossa weave that I'm looking for. The price of Chipp is not too expensive too.... any other brands that you may suggest with grossa weave for just a simple grenadine navy silk at around Chipp's price?
 
Thanks TK! I checked Chipp and they do have grenadines but not in the grossa weave that I'm looking for. The price of Chipp is not too expensive too.... any other brands that you may suggest with grossa weave for just a simple grenadine navy silk at around Chipp's price?
Cannot beat samhober.com. Customized, great quality, outstanding customer service. Highly recommend.
 
Cannot beat samhober.com. Customized, great quality, outstanding customer service. Highly recommend.
Agreed that their ties look fantastic and seem to worth what the price they are asking for. However, as I cannot spend that much on a single tie (albiet knowing that it will last long), my range is around 70 - 90 USD (and I have take into account shipping to Hong Kong too)... Will definitely want to own one by sam hober some day.. thanks for the kind suggestions!
 
A basic sam hober is about $90 before shipping. Not too far out of your price range if you want to skip lunch a couple of days or whatever to cover the shipping from Thailand to HK. I just looked on their site and DHL express shipping to Hong Kong is $4.

So, yeah. In your range. Or pretty darned close.

The alternative if you really want quality cheaper is to prowl Ebay for used. Be patient and you may find something nice there. But really, Chipp is actually cheap for quality grenadine, and good quality grenadine grossa is going to cost you that or more new no matter where you search.
 
A basic sam hober is about $90 before shipping. Not too far out of your price range if you want to skip lunch a couple of days or whatever to cover the shipping from Thailand to HK. I just looked on their site and DHL express shipping to Hong Kong is $4.

So, yeah. In your range. Or pretty darned close.

The alternative if you really want quality cheaper is to prowl Ebay for used. Be patient and you may find something nice there. But really, Chipp is actually cheap for quality grenadine, and good quality grenadine grossa is going to cost you that or more new no matter where you search.
Thanks Cmoore! Seems I will go for sam hober then! Thanks a lot for your recommendation!
 
Thanks Cmoore! Seems I will go for sam hober then! Thanks a lot for your recommendation!
Yeah, it's going to cost me. You see, now I've been looking at the site.

I have a shantung grenadine fina SH tie, which is perfect for my sport coat. I also have a shantung and a wool/silk blend. All three for specific coats, and the fabric is just lovely in all of them. I brag about ebay cheapies, but I get about one Sam Hober each year.

I don't NEED a new tie. But I have a charcoal suit coming and am thinking of dark navy or black grenadine for that James Bond look. Chipps is a little narrow for my physique.
 
Yeah, it's going to cost me. You see, now I've been looking at the site.

I have a shantung grenadine fina SH tie, which is perfect for my sport coat. I also have a shantung and a wool/silk blend. All three for specific coats, and the fabric is just lovely in all of them. I brag about ebay cheapies, but I get about one Sam Hober each year.

I don't NEED a new tie. But I have a charcoal suit coming and am thinking of dark navy or black grenadine for that James Bond look. Chipps is a little narrow for my physique.
Hahahha It's a good "cost" to have! Seems like you have a tie addiction ...must .. resist... to become cmoore. I also don't want the tie to be too thin, I've got some berg and berg ties and whilst their 8cm ones are nice I prefer it to be 9 cm (just the wide width imo)
 
Seems like you have a tie addiction ...must .. resist...
Nah, it's not like that at all! I am pretty focused with ties anymore.

I do have a lot of ties, but many of them I don't wear. I got them cheaply while learning some things, like what length I like and what texture really works for me, and colors I really like. They were great, and most were cheap. But if I'm not going to wear again them I'll pass them along. I have been selling or giving them away and adding only ties that I think I will wear more often, that don't duplicate what I have.

And, yeah, sometimes I'm whimsical -- I bought the Hermes Gliders in the Sky tie because it had gliders on it, not because it was Hermes, though it's a great color and I've worn it several times. So I have enough printed silk ties in a good selection of colors. Most of what I wear regularly is on the tier-2 of this thread -- Zegna, Dormieul, Robert Talbot 7 fold, Massimo Bizzocchi, etc. Plus two Hermes and the Sam Hobers.

What I do NOT have is much grenadine. All I have is a shantung fina grenadine Sam Hober (which is a little too flashy in some ways), and a really nice but too short striped grenadine grossa tie I got from a thrift store.

That thrift store grenadine is awesome. It's like a universal texture, I can wear it up or down, with a 3 piece or a sport coat, day or night, and be comfortable. A navy grenadine grossa a couple inches longer will go with literally every suit and coat I own and be a great complement. And do the Bond thing with my grey suit.

And I agree, 9cm is a great size. I normally go for something from 9 to 9.5cm. 8cm is too skinny for my taste and physique.

Anyway, fabric samples have been ordered.
 
Nah, it's not like that at all! I am pretty focused with ties anymore.

I do have a lot of ties, but many of them I don't wear. I got them cheaply while learning some things, like what length I like and what texture really works for me, and colors I really like. They were great, and most were cheap. But if I'm not going to wear again them I'll pass them along. I have been selling or giving them away and adding only ties that I think I will wear more often, that don't duplicate what I have.

And, yeah, sometimes I'm whimsical -- I bought the Hermes Gliders in the Sky tie because it had gliders on it, not because it was Hermes, though it's a great color and I've worn it several times. So I have enough printed silk ties in a good selection of colors. Most of what I wear regularly is on the tier-2 of this thread -- Zegna, Dormieul, Robert Talbot 7 fold, Massimo Bizzocchi, etc. Plus two Hermes and the Sam Hobers.

What I do NOT have is much grenadine. All I have is a shantung fina grenadine Sam Hober (which is a little too flashy in some ways), and a really nice but too short striped grenadine grossa tie I got from a thrift store.

That thrift store grenadine is awesome. It's like a universal texture, I can wear it up or down, with a 3 piece or a sport coat, day or night, and be comfortable. A navy grenadine grossa a couple inches longer will go with literally every suit and coat I own and be a great complement. And do the Bond thing with my grey suit.

And I agree, 9cm is a great size. I normally go for something from 9 to 9.5cm. 8cm is too skinny for my taste and physique.

Anyway, fabric samples have been ordered.
Lol to the last sentence. For me I don't have much budget to spend on ties as I don't wear ties often anyways (let's face it -beautiful as ties can be, sometimes its hard to spend 70 to 90 US on a small piece of cloth lol), then I discovered grenadine ties (yes I know very noobish). Then I found out that grenadine ties are so versatile and can work with most of everything, with the subtlety that I like without it being boring. The downside is people will just think it's a common knit tie unless such person is also into menswear. But whatever, I wear what I like anyways so that doesn't bother me.

Hope the fabric samples will inspire you to get some nice ties!
 
I got a selection. Thinking about more than just this order -- might get a friend a christmas gift too, and maybe my next year's order will include one in red. I wear red with navy often.

But for this Grenadine tie:
I got the cashmere and silk grenadine grossa samples. I haven't seen the cashmere, so what the heck
  • dark charcoal and midnight blue
  • black and midnight blue
  • midnight blue
Then normal silk grenadine
  • Midnight blue fina
  • dark navy piccola
  • dark navy prometeo
I already have a sample of Midnight Grossa all silk on hand from when I ordered last summer, so I wanted to compare it to the dark navy, and I also wanted to see the similar options around those.

I also got samples of the stuff like mogador, faille silk, some red grenadine, and the red wool silk blend. Just to see the colors and hand feel. This tie will be a dark blue grenadine, but I like non grenadine fabrics as well. The wool/silk from SH is so amazingly soft I can't tell you. Lovely touch. I want pajamas made out of it.

I have decided each time to get a sample of some of the other fabric offerings when I order. It costs more to ship than for the swatches, and I like to have something in hand to understand the fabric so, as I said, what the heck. Might as well take a look.
 
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