I have seen some of these clothes. Beautiful cloth but does anyone know about the cobstruction o the suits and jackets?
tom ford anyone?
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I tried on a few TF suits and sport jackets at NM, and they're wonderful garments. Design, construction, tailoring and fabrics are all equal to many bespoke garments. Directly from the rack to my back, they all fit me so well that a little tailoring would probably render them indistiguishable from bespoke. But they cost more than a bespoke suit of comparable or better material, so I can't justify buying one absent a truly urgent need for a very fine suit. Unless my house burns to the ground and takes everything inside with it, that need is not likely to arise. But if it does, I know exactly where to go.
I like his range, outside of work and formal wear, I could wear Tom Ford clothing.
We often see comments about the full retail being overpriced, which is an easy stance to take with prices (based comments on this forum and SF, everything is overpriced); however, with TF it is true. I asked about the price of a pair of trousers when in Harrods and the assistant said £519, went to E. Zegna and got trousers for £189 instead.
Some of the TF clothing is nicer than E. Zegna (even the cloth) and would not mind paying extra; however, paying double is silly. If I want E. Zegna quality clothing but more fashion-forward, I would go to Prada.
We often see comments about the full retail being overpriced, which is an easy stance to take with prices (based comments on this forum and SF, everything is overpriced); however, with TF it is true. I asked about the price of a pair of trousers when in Harrods and the assistant said £519, went to E. Zegna and got trousers for £189 instead.
Some of the TF clothing is nicer than E. Zegna (even the cloth) and would not mind paying extra; however, paying double is silly. If I want E. Zegna quality clothing but more fashion-forward, I would go to Prada.
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I am forced to disagree with Tory boy here. I don't think it's overpriced looking at the garments and the whole apparatus that goes with it ie retail space, advertising, PR staff etc.
It's no wonder the brand is so good with Tom Fords "money is no object" aproach.
We must also remember he is doing much smaller numbers than Zegna and he doesn't own his own factories and Mills.
It's no wonder the brand is so good with Tom Fords "money is no object" aproach.
We must also remember he is doing much smaller numbers than Zegna and he doesn't own his own factories and Mills.
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As may be true... I tried a few of last seasons suits when in London. I agree that they were well made, nice cloths. But $8000? I could have picked up two bespoke in same/similar cloth for that on the row.
saw a suit for £1000 on sale but not my size. I like his style. SR bespoke is costlier than TF. TF is about £1800 for a lovely grey suit. SB peak lapels. Thats the thing. The place had suits which were all SB peak lapels. I suspect they change every season.
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Tom Ford
Quite elegant with an Austin Powers touch is my impression. With our past experiences we have been impressed. Some talk that they will start cuff link lines in the near future to complement eyeglass line. Stay tuned. A definite thumbs up
Quite elegant with an Austin Powers touch is my impression. With our past experiences we have been impressed. Some talk that they will start cuff link lines in the near future to complement eyeglass line. Stay tuned. A definite thumbs up
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I am more of a fan of the Row than TF but they are quite different animals and hard to compare for all kinds of reasons. I also think it depends on what exactly they are made of. A $500 a yard cloth won't be so "inferior" to one that is $1000+. You could even buy a suit from Savile Row at $10,000+ and not be ripped off.
When your buying a name your not only buying the garment you are literally paying for that name which isn't really a bad thing. Your paying for that fancy bathroom in TF, that fancy barman, the staff that are culled from Loro Piana (which pays very well).
I had plenty of people telling me that Savile row was too expensive for the product, but at the end of the day it's not only the final product you pay for is it?
Tom Ford and some comments he made have provoked a lively exchange on The London Lounge forum: https://www.thelondonlounge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8246
FWIW, my view is that "designers" are for women. Moreover, designers whose prices match or exceed those of bespoke makers are of no possible use to a man who knows how to dress himself. For the very rich, very ignorant man who has no personal conception of style, he may find value in "outsourcing" his style choices to a designer. A man who knows clothes, though, would just work with his tailor to achieve his prefered cut, without the need to pay for the "consulting" service that a designer is selling.
FWIW, my view is that "designers" are for women. Moreover, designers whose prices match or exceed those of bespoke makers are of no possible use to a man who knows how to dress himself. For the very rich, very ignorant man who has no personal conception of style, he may find value in "outsourcing" his style choices to a designer. A man who knows clothes, though, would just work with his tailor to achieve his prefered cut, without the need to pay for the "consulting" service that a designer is selling.
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I think your right.
Thanks. I mean, for crying out loud, if I wanted a very trim suit, why wouldn't I be better off going to a tailor for whom these are a strength (such as you, good sir!) and having him prepare a garment specially for me out of my choice of thousands of fabrics, with every element conformed to my personal preference, for the same or less money??? The only possible answer is that I lack personal preferences, and need to be told what to wear, and have chosen to believe that the superbly-marketed Mr. Ford has the best "vision."
I suppose that it is my preference that men so devoid of any individual style or aesthetic judgment be separated from their money as quickly as possible. At least in that regard, I root for Mr. Ford to command the highest prices he can imagine.
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I get that and agree. And I'm a guy that believes in paying full retail for lot of reasons. All I was saying about Ford was that a couple of folks on the rowm could have done the same things, better fit, 2 for 1. But if convenience is your thing, go for it.
The Ford at Harrods was tagged at £5500 and £4900.
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...going back to the OP, Tom Ford suits and jackets are made by E. Zegna, with cloth provided by E. Zegna as well. I would rate the quality of construction as being on par with Zegna's Couture line, that is their Neopolitan/ 30% hand-sewn offering.
I feel that Tom Ford products are excellently made, with exquisite materials. I am giving him his due here. I also have not and probably will not wear his clothes, as I find them extreme in design, and I have my own tastes.
This leads to CuffDaddy's sentiments. Designers are for ready-to-wear garments, for men and women alike. And within RTW, Tom Ford the designer has done much to bring tailoring and classic men's dress into the forefront.
I feel that Tom Ford products are excellently made, with exquisite materials. I am giving him his due here. I also have not and probably will not wear his clothes, as I find them extreme in design, and I have my own tastes.
This leads to CuffDaddy's sentiments. Designers are for ready-to-wear garments, for men and women alike. And within RTW, Tom Ford the designer has done much to bring tailoring and classic men's dress into the forefront.
OTR or used anything is nasty stuff, esp when costly, as it reveals much about lack of taste of buyer...whether in case of a house or car or clothes
But money never bought taste
Thus wildly overpriced OTR brands will persist in nearly all luxury consumer goods
But money never bought taste
Thus wildly overpriced OTR brands will persist in nearly all luxury consumer goods
He's sw20 at Style Forum, I'm pretty sure. Same behavior.
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