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I have been researching Duffle Coats for the last few weeks. There is no question that the basic navy Gloverall is my favorite.

https://shop.oconnellsclothing.com/...pup.php?cPath=https://shop.oconnellsclothing.com/images/products/1217876419.img

But, I also came across a coat by the brand Schott.

https://www.schottnyc.com/products/men/duffle/unlined-wool-duffle-coat.htm

My gut is telling me the wool quality is not a good on the Schott but it is less than half the price of the Gloverall.

The Gloverall would run me around $600 and the Schott is only $175.

Any insight or opinions?

Thanks
 
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I bought a sale-price Gloverall from STP as well. The toggles are plastic, not horn, but otherwise the coat is substantial, warm, and well-made. I've looked at duffles costing as much as $400 more, and I just can't see the quality difference. So, the STP is a good deal, and after all, thrift is a trad virtue.
 
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NYtrad said:
I have been researching Duffle Coats for the last few weeks. There is no question that the basic navy Gloverall is my favorite.

https://shop.oconnellsclothing.com/...pup.php?cPath=https://shop.oconnellsclothing.com/images/products/1217876419.img

But, I also came across a coat by the brand Schott.

https://www.schottnyc.com/products/men/duffle/unlined-wool-duffle-coat.htm

My gut is telling me the wool quality is not a good on the Schott but it is less than half the price of the Gloverall.

The Gloverall would run me around $600 and the Schott is only $175.

Any insight or opinions?

Thanks
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If the Schott duffel uses the same fabric as the pea coat, it's Melton cloth of 75% reprocessed wool and 25% nylon. Fine for what it is, but a much less costly fabric than one that's 100% virgin wool. It will have a coarse hand. Nylon isn't warm, but it's very strong and abrasion resistant, and if the cloth is woven to 32oz weight, it will be quite warm and should be very durable.
 
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PeterSawatzky said:
Would a Gloverall be warm enough for a New Brunswick winter? (Think downeast Maine, but worse.)
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I don't have one, but I've tried a few on. They're nice coats, but by themselves, I don't believe they would be warm enough for a NJ winter if it included being outdoors for any extended time. However, duffels are really about layering and should be purchased large enough to do so. With a heavy weight wool sweater, and perhaps a turtleneck underneath that, it's a whole different story.
 
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I have a fairly small build (a 38 S suit has to be altered substantially to fit me) and all of the Gloveralls on STP are of larger sizes and not in any color I would be interested in.

I have been told that Gloveralls run small so I will probably need a 36.

I am very bullish on the Navy but would settle for the Khaki color.

Does anyone have a used one they are willing to sell?
 
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The links to the products on the John Partridge site do not work. I am not even sure where I would find John Partridge.

Does anyone know a store in Manhattan where I can try on Duffle Coats (Gloverall, John Partridge)
 
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I do think the gloveralls run just a bit on the small side. I wear a 38-39 jacket, and my duffle is a 42. The fit is not baggy at all and I have enough room left for a thick sweater.....which is a positive, since these coats lack a zipper some cold wind can sneak in the front.

Otherwise they are excellent coats and I wouldn't part with mine for anything!
 
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This afternoon I trekked all over Manhattan to try on these coats.

The Schott was actually nicer than I imagined it would be. The wool seemed to be decent quality.

I called Barneys to see if they still carried Gloveralls, and they put a 38 on the side for me. When I got there I was surprised to see this Gloverall:

https://www.grandpa.se/system/search/product.asp?id=5160

It is a beautiful coat but a 38 was too large for me. I am going to search for a 36.

It has the rope and wood toggles like the Monty (this has 4 the Monty has 3). It is much shorter than any other Gloveralls I have seen. Surprisingly, Gloverall does not even have it on their website. Does anyone have any insight into this? The item number is 3001C. I just searched "3001C Gloverall" on google and one site came up.
 
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Can't speak to the moment or specific locations but Syms at one time carried some Gloverall. That could have changed. Have you checked eBay?

Not to offend, but is there a chance you could wear a very large kid's size? Kid's measurements in centimeters.
https://www.kids-biz.co.uk/Gloverall Size Chart.htm (then click upper left of the web screen for back to Gloverall Coat info.) If you click on the "WEBSHOP" symbol it will allow you to access their associated company offering adult Gloverall duffles in about 10 colors beginning with size 34" chest.
 
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I got a great, unlined Chrystalis duffle from STP about 5 yrs ago. They seem to be selling in different colors for about $400. The "mushroom" version looks good. I got a charcoal gray version on spring clearout for about $100. Excellent quality. Beautiful horn toggles and very nice finishing on the inside seams. Definitely a step or two up in quality from Gloverall imo.

Edit: Found some pics of it from a couple years ago:
 
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jamgood said:
Can't speak to the moment or specific locations but Syms at one time carried some Gloverall. That could have changed. Have you checked eBay?

Not to offend, but is there a chance you could wear a very large kid's size? Kid's measurements in centimeters.
https://www.kids-biz.co.uk/Gloverall Size Chart.htm (then click upper left of the web screen for back to Gloverall Coat info.) If you click on the "WEBSHOP" symbol it will allow you to access their associated company offering adult Gloverall duffles in about 10 colors beginning with size 34" chest.
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I will definitely check out Syms.

No offense taken at all, I actually considered kid sizes myself. On Gloveralls site I saw a boys jacket for 15-16 year olds. It would be too much of a risk to order it without trying it on. Do you know anywhere in NYC where they sell the childrens jackets?

In a side note, where on the Gloverall site can I purchase the rope and wood toggles. Regardless of what jacket I wind up getting I would like to have those put on.
 
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