Why Does Online Made to Measure Fail So Often?

Discussion in 'Andy's Fashion Forum' started by Rollo, Jun 25, 2018.

  1. WA

    WA Honors Member

    United States
    WA
    Bellingham
    Before tight fitting clothes loose fitting wasn't much better. Wrong measurements, wrong posture, and a number of other fitting problems. Even a little little bit off can make a huge difference. Sure many of these cheap clothes don't have all the pressing they need. So, how can they come out right?
     
  2. jts287

    jts287 Active Member with Corp. Privileges

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    Ohio
    Rocky River
    Look, if you're trying to avoid collecting 'likes', stop saying funny stuff
     
  3. Leatherneck

    Leatherneck Starting Member

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    Cleveland area
    United States
    Ohio
    Broadview Heights
    For me, this is really my only option. I have a 49 inch chest, 36 waist, 18.5 inch neck, and arms from a T-Rex. As much as I would love to have bespoke clothes, it really is not in the budget. Finding a shirt or suit off the rack is impossible. I have recently ordered and received a shirt from Original Stitch that fits perfectly. Same with an all wool suit from modern tailor. I decided to order two shirts from Deo Veritas the other day and give them a shot. In my experience, as long as the measurements are accurate, you should normally not have any problems. I had one nightmare experience with a company but all in all, this has worked out well for me.
     
  4. medhat

    medhat Super Member

    United States
    Wisconsin
    Madison
    I agree that perhaps even a majority of folks who order online MTM are ultimately satisfied (and don't go posting their mistakes on the Forum), but I think the reasons for failure are likely multifactorial (aside from gross mismeasurements, etc...). From the looks of what people post when they've ordered from places like "SS", I think there's a "house style" (if that isn't too much a stretch, pun intended) that's intended to be extremely fashion forward (short jackets, waist suppression regardless of if it's warranted), and not surprisingly, for many people that doesn't quite work. Age-related bias here, but in popular culture, social media and otherwise, celebrities, athletes, reality TV stars are all costumed in similar garb (the short jacket, body-conscious look), but the "average" guy doesn't have either the time, inclination, genetics, or personal trainers to have the same underlying physique. So they get their tight online MTM suit and are left wondering why it doesn't look like the Instagram posts of their celebrity stars.
     
  5. Flanderian

    Flanderian Connoisseur

    United States
    New Jersey
    Flanders
    In essence, I think you're spot on concerning differences in physique. But if you examine even celebrities, don't they look OK despite the clothes they're wearing, not because of them? And wouldn't they look a lot better in clothing that fulfilled the intent of its essential aesthetic?

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  6. medhat

    medhat Super Member

    United States
    Wisconsin
    Madison
    Can't remember which tabloid mag, but there used to be a photo section called, "celebrities, they're just like us!" that had pictures of said celebs out at the market, pumping gas, etc... Yes, by and large celebrities/athletes for the most part are slim, attractive, and have very nice teeth. But under the surface of winning the genetic lottery, I wouldn't be surprised if many/most of them have fashion tastes that are much more pedestrian than their appearances suggest, and that insecurity puts them at risk of relying on "style advisors" who in turn put them in clothes promoted more by advertising dollars rather than something that is objectively attractive.

    If I were in product placement, I couldn't argue with the logic. Find people others think are attractive, pay them to wear your clothes. Make money. It's a tried and true formula, lemmings aren't an endangered species.

    I will make one exception. High fashion models (I happen to know one, so it's a limited sample size). They simply wear whatever the hell they want, and it's like the old "new stock day" at Filene's Basement. The world that watches them goes crazy over every odd bit of clothing, with little regard for the fact that nature didn't make more than a handful of people who can pull off tall, uber-skinny, and beautiful.
     
  7. Rollo

    Rollo New Member

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    PA
    King of Prussia
    So I start a thread about online MTM failing and what happens? In desperation I give it another try, even though it failed twice before.

    Well what a surprise. It failed again. I got the shirt today and it fits terribly. Off the rack might be better. I am not blaming anyone. I am beyond that at this point. The company I dealt with has great customer service and have been helpful and fair to me. If you have an easy to fit body, I think they are great. No knock on them. For some reason it isn't working for me.

    The promise of easy order MTM shirts, in all sorts of patterns, fabrics and colors, all there on the internet, waiting for me to simply press a few buttons! All I have to do is get my measurements "dialed in" and I am good to go. My body has no dial tone apparently.

    Oh, the time and energy and frustration that goes into getting this right and still it goes wrong. What a waste of life! I am back to t shirts and jeans. I am back to not paying attention to what i wear. Back to ignorance is bliss.
     
  8. SG_67

    SG_67 Connoisseur

    United States
    Illinois
    Chicago
    ^what? It’s never over! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

    Seriously though, have you even thought about off the rack. Or perhaps made to measure with a real life person actually measuring.

    You’re in the Philadelphia area. I’m sure there are plenty of places where you can go and be properly fitted.
     
  9. paxonus

    paxonus Active Member with Corp. Privileges

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    Los Angeles
    I recently received my first shirt from Luxire. I used the measurements from my best fitting shirt. The fit is spot-on and I couldn't be more pleased. I don't see myself ever buying another shirt elsewhere. Go figure.
     
  10. Rollo

    Rollo New Member

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    United States
    PA
    King of Prussia
    I have tried off the rack. I tried every brand I can think of. None work without tailoring and even then they are barely passable, if that.

    Years ago, when my budget allowed, I went to a great shirtmaker here in the area named Ray- raycustomshirtmaker.com. For the first time in my life, my shirts fit. My body changed a good bit and now the shirts are a memory. I figured i can't afford to get custom shirts right now, (he has a three shirt minimum), but with all the money I spent on mediocre OTR, tailoring and online MTM, I bet I would have actually saved money with Ray or anyone else. In fact considering I have nothing really to show for all I went through, I am certain I would have saved money going custom right from the beginning.
     

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