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Dress Shirt from Savilerowshirts.net

I just got a blue, spread collar, French cuff shirt from www.savilerowshirts.net They have a limited selection in their ready-to-wear, but that may be a good thing. The shirts are handmade in England (by Rainer and Sturges) and here's what they claim:



What makes our shirts unique

bullet Three -piece double-cuffs, for cuff links, with a stitched inter-lining (not glued), for stiffness and longevity
bullet The finest Australian real Mother of Pearl buttons, hand-stitched with a crossed lockstitch to prevent them coming loose
bullet Our own bespoke Savile Row Shirts collar. Eight -piece collar, in a semi cut-away traditional style. This gives the collar a natural tendency both to turn and stay down.
bullet Italian mill, two-fold 100’s, cotton poplin - the finest and most durable cloth, which ensures the shirt lasts many years longer than a standard one
bullet 100% cotton stitching all over, with 16 stitches per inch - the optimum number for strength and quality
bullet We are the only shirt-maker to insist on a hand folded Butterfly re-enforced gusset, for all of our shirts – this provides additional strength and it also contours the back tail of the shirt - unlike a typical triangle machined piece of fabric
bullet Four-piece split shoulder yoke, with matching seams.
bullet Half inch pleats are inserted on each lower shoulder of the shirt back for added comfort.
bullet Cut with a traditional saddle shape shirt-tail, tailored through the waist
bullet All Savile Row Shirts have a 1/2 inch wash shrink allowance in the collar and the sleeves ensuring the shirt fits perfectly after it’s 2nd and 102nd wash

Treat yourself to a Savile Row shirt and we are totally confidentthat you will never want to wear any other shirt again. Made from beautiful Italian cotton, our own unique eight piece collar, butterfly reinforced gusset, three piece double cuffs and real Australian Mother of Pearl buttons, no other shirt feels or looks quite so good. Our shirts come fitted to your exact size, no matter how small or how large. At only £95 each or £180 for a pair they are fantastic value for money. A similar handmade shirt from a shop on Savile Row or Jermyn Street costs in excess of £170.

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And the shirt lives up to the list above! One puzzlement was that when I ordered the shirt only a neck size was asked (not mention of sleeve size). This bother me and I ask the company Director, Nick Reid about it.

He said their RTW shirts were made to a "standard" length, that has taken them years of shirt data to produce the correct length sleeve.

My neck size ordered had a perfect sleeve length!

If you don't fit the standard shirt sleeve they also provide a bespoke service for those clients who wish to have a shirt tailored to their exact measurements/specification.

No sleeve gauntlet button which is typical on an English shirt and good substantial collar stays!

A very well made, great looking shirt!


Napoli Coast Neckties

I just got this Napoli Coast necktie from http://www.napolicoast.com/  They are owned by http://www.Tiealign.com   the company that makes the label loop necktie holder. That’s the clever plastic device that slips under the tie loop and fastens to two buttons on your shirt!

Napoli Coast neckties are seven fold (technically six fold) and are lined! 

The silk comes from Lake Como, Italy where it’s naturally dyed and woven into various exclusive patterns. The high quality Como silk has a soft hand “feel” even though it’s a heavier weight silk.

All of their neckties are woven from yarn dyed silk and never printed. This gives texture and depth to the silk that printed silk doesn’t have.

After the designs have been woven the silk fabric is sent to our Napoli Italy.

Two pieces are cut from a single piece of silk and are then sewn together with a dual interlining in the middle.

All of the fabric elements are hand cut. This makes sure that the pattern in the fabric is perfectly centered, something that a machine can't match.

Every Napoli Coast seven-fold necktie is made from a metre and a half of silk fabric (1.6404 yards!), twice what other manufacturers use to make a necktie. This gives the ties a substance and fit that are unique and an highly resistance to wear.

Each piece is also cut on a bias to ensure a straight necktie.

Bias cut – quality ties are cut on an angle, ideally 45 degrees, which is a method introduced by Jesse Langsdorf in 1920, of cutting diagonally across the grain of a fabric allowing the tie to assume it’s original shape after knotting.  Allows the finished tie to lie flat and resist turning over to one side – a defect called “corkscrewing”.   

Andy’s Bias Tests:

1. Lay the tie on a flat surface, put one palm over the widest part the other about where the knot will be and move your palms apart, the tie should stretch slightly and go back to it’s original shape when you let go. 

 2. Hold the tie up by its small end, if it twists it wasn’t cut on the bias, but if it hangs straight it passes the test.

 3. Hang the tie over your outstretched arm to make certain the narrow end lines up (centers) with the wide end.

 4. The weave, or "grain" of the fabric should run diagonally across the tie. If it runs horizontally, the tie was not cut on the bias.

The Napoli artisans then hand fold the silk around the dual interlining.

The dual interlining is made of fine combed wool & cotton is also hand cut, and assures the necktie will retain its shape.

The necktie is then pinned shut and checked over to guarantee specifications are met.

Once the necktie has been checked and approved, it is hand sewn with a hidden stitch, bar tack, and slip stitch loop at both the tip and tail.

Bar Tack  -- Most quality ties will have a stitch joining the two sides on the back of the wide end, at the top of the tipping where the two sides join and make an inverted “V” there should be a small stitch anchoring the seam.

The slip stitch loops allow the necktie to move along the hidden stitch thread to assure that it won't rip when its being wrapped tightly around your neck, and that it will, when removed, return to its original shape. If you pull on the slip stitch the tie should gather.

Slip Stitch – a long thread that runs the length of the tie on the underside.  You can find the knotted end next to the interlining.  The Slip Stitch also was invented by Jesse Langsdorf in 1924 and allows the tie to return to its original shape after you’ve twisted it into a knot.  

It’s a beautiful necktie, great fabric, and pattern and exceptionally well made.  Most neckties are prices at: $167.00.00

http://www.napolicoast.com/ 

 

Giorgenti Best Custom Shirts

I got two of the Giorgenti Best Custom Shirts recently.

http://www.bestcustomshirt.com/

I choose one in the Deluxe category (the choices are divided by fabrics). A 100% Cotton 100's Egyptian Checks/Plaids for $99 in a two button cuff and Medium Spread collar

 

And in the Luxury category I went with a French cuff and Wide Spread collar for $149

 

The Luxury fabrics are woven in Italy's exclusive mills such as Albini, Canclini, Leggiuno, and Tessitura Monti. 

Lots of style choices.  A detailed self measuring guide.  Here are the features they advertise:

Double reinforced fused collar for a crisp collar and firmness.
 
Bias split yoke for movement, flexibility and comfort.
 
20 Stitches Per Inch for non puckering and smooth seams.
 
Matching Stripes for an expensive beautiful look.
 
Single Needle Stitching for a natural stretch that won't break the seams.
 
Two Spare Buttons sewn in the shirt tail. No need to scramble for spare buttons.
 
Extra pair of collar stays. For those that don't make it back from the cleaners.

I couldn’t find the extra collar stays and neither shirt had a split yoke (one of my insists in a “quality” shirt!!! But it might have been something I  didn’t check in the ordering process.

Collar stays are substantial plastic, sleeve placket buttons, and the front placket has a generous eight front buttons! 

The monogram style was good looking. I choose no pockets, and a monogram just under where the pocket would have been, but it up was where the pocket would have been.  I looked again at the choices and it was cuff, pocket or chest.  And I think the pocket and chest choices might be the same location.  Different, but it looks OK

 I’m pleased with the fabrics, features, and fit!

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The Conair DPP300 Palm Press Iron is actually a travel steamer!


This is the best small steamer I've found.  It hold lots of water and is the only one I've found that's easy to fill!!  The iron shape is handy if you want to use it as a travel or quick iron and the steam is heavy vertically.

You can place a garment on a bed and steam/iron it quickly and efficiently.

This one is available from Amazon.com  -- Andy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Baroni Suits

After the recent and passionate post about The Wizard of Aahs (http://stores.ebay.com/The-Wizard-of-Aahs/) Baroni suits in addition to my efforts to do more “consumer” reports, I received from Jeff two Baroni suits, one Matteo di Rota shirt and one necktie for review.

The Baroni suits retail for $495 (and as low as $279 at the Wizard of Aahs e-bay store) with a reported MSRP (Suggested retail) of $795 to $1195. One Baroni is made in Italy and the other in China.

Both use S-150 fabric (which had a nice hand!), feature excess fabric for alterations, and are yarn dyed for consistency.

Lapels offer pick stitching, which could be by hand but more likely by machine. At this price point just having the pick stitching is a nice touch!

Sleeves have four non-working buttons with sewn faux buttonholes.

Trousers have 3 button closure with tab “in the fashion of” Zanella.


The lapels of both suits have a non opening Key Hole buttonhole. Recent Forum discussions have pointed out that a key hole buttonhole can be a sign of lower quality on a suit/sport jacket lapel. When mass producing a garment for sale at a low price point, it does not make sense to make two kinds of buttonholes, and thus raise the cost to produce the garment.

A round or rounded end button hole is curved at one end, and are the type of button holes that are used for the lapel buttonhole on most suits and sport jackets, since the function of pulling lapels across the front of you and buttoning them as protection against weather has ceased to be a practical function. The lapel buttonhole has been converted to a decorative function, or a place to put a flower.

I don’t think this would be noticed except in the highest sartorial levels (if you own one of these suits and attend an Ask Andy event you might want to wear your Oxxford suit instead!)

To me it’s not that noticeable to the average person and not that big a deal at this price point. Plus we’ve seen it as a designer statement on some very high end suits. It’s something that I could live with for a good suit value at $300!

The differences between the Asian and Italian Baroni:

Asian Baroni:

This suit was a nice looking charcoal pinstripe and the pinstripes were very subtle and projected an impression of red, pink or burgundy.

There are approximately 75-100 assembly plants in China and only three are regarded as top quality. The factory where the Baroni suit is assembled is the one of the three that is co-owned by a very famous Italian suit maker and the Chinese.

The Interfacing (also called Canvas or Interlining) is a full floating canvas. Full canvas describes a suit jacket that has a canvas interlining in the entire front of the jacket from the shoulders to the bottom hem.

Just a consumer reminder that “Floating chest pieces”are common in fused suits. An interfacing is fused over large sections of the front and then in the chest, where the most padding is needed, then a separate piece held by the shoulder and armhole seams is added. That chest piece will “float” over a fused front.

In a “canvas construction”, the canvas will float over the natural, unfused fabric.

I can’t tell if there is some fusing or what the canvas is made of without cutting open the lining. Again at this price point I’m not sure that it matters that much.

Baroni tells me that the Half Canvas Floating chest piece (Chinese production) has NO fusing at all!!
 

Italian Baroni:

The “Italian” suit (G.B. Baroni uomo) was a charcoal windowpane. The tag said “Made in Italy” The patterns were lined up nicely.

The Interfacing (also Canvas or Interlining) is a half floating canvas with no fusing. Half canvas describes a suit jacket that has only a chest piece (from shoulders to bottom of the rib cage).

For a southern climate I actually like the half canvas approach!

An Opinion:

I would not begin to compare these suits toOxxford, Brioni, Savile row bespoke, or any bespoke.

If you already own such a “high end” suit, you’re not the market for which these suits were designed. And I think Jeff of the Wizard of Aah’s knows that very well.

BUT if you’re used to suits from Macy’s or Men’s Warehouse, you’re going to love one of these suits plus you’ll get more value than a typical warehouse or department store suit for about the same price or less.

The Baroni suits are better constructed that the average Warehouse/Department store suit which can sell for between $695-$895 and often offers lesser quality fabric, cheap fused construction and no tailoring details like pick stitching. Some Department store suits don’t even offer the faux button holes on the sleeves like the Baroni has!

The secret is, as with any suit, the fit. If you’re successful in getting your alterations tailor to fit you well in a Baroni it will look good.

Many jobs require a suit, but if you’re not at the highest level of your company or appearing in the Senate or before the supreme court you probably are not going to invest in $3000 suits. Baroni offers the man in this situation a well constructed suit for a good value.

When I worked in occupational safety I wore a suit occasionally (especially in the early days), but in that suit I often was inspecting machine shops, chemical labs, etc. I wanted to look professional, but I sure didn’t want to invest much in a suit that had an exposure to that kind of potential damage.

My really good suits I reserved for social events not work! But that was just the type of environment I worked in. If that kind of situation applies to some of you then you would be pleased with Baroni suits.

The Matteo di Rota shirt is made in Italy with a MSRP listing at $310, but sells for $110 on the Wizard of Aah’s website! It’s 100% Italian cotton which has a very excellent hand!

It features single needle tailoring with silk thread, the buttons are double thick mother of pearl, a French placketcovers the front buttons (nice touch), and it has edge stitching around the collar.

My one negative with the shirt is the lack of a split yoke, but some of the more expensive Italian shirt makers don’t do split yokes so it’s more a personal matter.

The Necktie is well constructed of quality hand woven silk. The tipping is silk but not self fabric and there are two keepers, a self fabric and a label keeper.

 

 

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